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		<title>Comment on Replacing Exchange Public Folder Functionality with Google Apps by judismith</title>
		<link>http://blog.unofficialtechnology.com/2009/09/06/replacing-exchange-public-folder-functionality-with-google-apps/#comment-749</link>
		<dc:creator>judismith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 17:27:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello Brian! 

The way we have it configured is as a front end to a Gmail mailbox. Moving emails from a personal account to a shared account can be done in a couple of ways: 1) forward it to the shared account or 2) if you allow users to share the password for the shared email account (not recommended), in an IMAP client where both accounts are configured, you could drag the email from one account to the other. 

I personally prefer forwarding the message. That way everyone can see the history of that message and how it got there. We all know that context for messages in email is in short supply. So I think that anything we can do to maintain or provide more context for the message is helpful.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Brian! </p>
<p>The way we have it configured is as a front end to a Gmail mailbox. Moving emails from a personal account to a shared account can be done in a couple of ways: 1) forward it to the shared account or 2) if you allow users to share the password for the shared email account (not recommended), in an IMAP client where both accounts are configured, you could drag the email from one account to the other. </p>
<p>I personally prefer forwarding the message. That way everyone can see the history of that message and how it got there. We all know that context for messages in email is in short supply. So I think that anything we can do to maintain or provide more context for the message is helpful.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Replacing Exchange Public Folder Functionality with Google Apps by Brian</title>
		<link>http://blog.unofficialtechnology.com/2009/09/06/replacing-exchange-public-folder-functionality-with-google-apps/#comment-747</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 04:49:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does Email Center Pro run parallel to Gmail or as the frontend to Gmail?  How are emails moved from a personal email account to a shared email account?  Is it as simple as dragging from the inbox to the public folder?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does Email Center Pro run parallel to Gmail or as the frontend to Gmail?  How are emails moved from a personal email account to a shared email account?  Is it as simple as dragging from the inbox to the public folder?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Replacing Exchange Public Folder Functionality with Google Apps by judismith</title>
		<link>http://blog.unofficialtechnology.com/2009/09/06/replacing-exchange-public-folder-functionality-with-google-apps/#comment-745</link>
		<dc:creator>judismith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Oct 2009 20:37:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello James! Thanks for the comment.

You are essentially correct. What I&#039;ve found the most useful is to create an email address specifically for the project.

Then you can accomplish shared inboxes in a number of ways:
&lt;ul&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;give all the group members access to it&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;use Email Center Pro to manage it. Email Center Pro adds a nice layer of reporting on top of the mail box plus it requires unique logins. Having unique logins was a critical requirement for us. That way if someone leaves the team, you can simply deactivate their Email Center Pro account. You don&#039;t have to change the password on the underlying GMail account.&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;somewhat different - you can use a Google Group for the project. While not part of Google Apps yet (are you listening Google??) its a great way to collaborate on projects if you don&#039;t have to worry about the from address of the emails that are sent out&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;ultimately, if you can swing a Google Wave invitation, that looks like it will be excellent for project communication&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;

There are a number of other useful tools in the Apps constellation to help with project management and collaboration. &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.google.com/support/a/bin/answer.py?hl=en&amp;answer=114246&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Google Moderator&lt;/a&gt; lets users post ideas and other users can vote them up or down. This is a great way to prioritize feature requests or bug fixes. Sites is a useful to put all of the project communication in one place. You can take a look at Google&#039;s example site &lt;a href=&quot;https://sites.google.com/a/altostrat.com/project-eggplant/Home&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.

For migrating email from exchange, there are tools available. We used the free &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.google.com/support/a/bin/answer.py?hl=en&amp;answer=61369&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;IMAP migration tool&lt;/a&gt; from Google. We migrated all of our users&#039; email over as part of the deployment.

So for us, Google Apps not only replaced Exchange, but SharePoint and a  Blackberry server as well. I have been very happy with our decision to move to Google. Most of our users are thrilled with the change.

Good luck with your decision. Feel free to post back with any other questions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello James! Thanks for the comment.</p>
<p>You are essentially correct. What I&#8217;ve found the most useful is to create an email address specifically for the project.</p>
<p>Then you can accomplish shared inboxes in a number of ways:</p>
<ul>
<li>give all the group members access to it</li>
<li>use Email Center Pro to manage it. Email Center Pro adds a nice layer of reporting on top of the mail box plus it requires unique logins. Having unique logins was a critical requirement for us. That way if someone leaves the team, you can simply deactivate their Email Center Pro account. You don&#8217;t have to change the password on the underlying GMail account.</li>
<li>somewhat different &#8211; you can use a Google Group for the project. While not part of Google Apps yet (are you listening Google??) its a great way to collaborate on projects if you don&#8217;t have to worry about the from address of the emails that are sent out</li>
<li>ultimately, if you can swing a Google Wave invitation, that looks like it will be excellent for project communication</li>
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<p>There are a number of other useful tools in the Apps constellation to help with project management and collaboration. <a href="http://www.google.com/support/a/bin/answer.py?hl=en&amp;answer=114246" rel="nofollow">Google Moderator</a> lets users post ideas and other users can vote them up or down. This is a great way to prioritize feature requests or bug fixes. Sites is a useful to put all of the project communication in one place. You can take a look at Google&#8217;s example site <a href="https://sites.google.com/a/altostrat.com/project-eggplant/Home" rel="nofollow">here</a>.</p>
<p>For migrating email from exchange, there are tools available. We used the free <a href="http://www.google.com/support/a/bin/answer.py?hl=en&amp;answer=61369" rel="nofollow">IMAP migration tool</a> from Google. We migrated all of our users&#8217; email over as part of the deployment.</p>
<p>So for us, Google Apps not only replaced Exchange, but SharePoint and a  Blackberry server as well. I have been very happy with our decision to move to Google. Most of our users are thrilled with the change.</p>
<p>Good luck with your decision. Feel free to post back with any other questions.</p>
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		<title>Comment on About by BadGirl35</title>
		<link>http://blog.unofficialtechnology.com/about/#comment-743</link>
		<dc:creator>BadGirl35</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 15:46:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The book s value to Lieberman appears to lie   in its assertion of contingency and identity in theoretical terms. ,</description>
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		<title>Comment on Replacing Exchange Public Folder Functionality with Google Apps by James LC</title>
		<link>http://blog.unofficialtechnology.com/2009/09/06/replacing-exchange-public-folder-functionality-with-google-apps/#comment-742</link>
		<dc:creator>James LC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 04:44:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi 

Thanks for the fantastic insights into moving to the Google Apps platform. We are a Non Profit and were looking at moving to a hosted exchange solution but I am being more and more convinced that Google Apps is the way to go.

One of my main concerns was the ability to mimic Public Folder functionality with Gmail. We use public folders as a repository for emails relating to a specific project (more than one person tends to work on a single project and hence they act as shared inboxes for the specific project) - people move relevant mails to the public folder then anyone can search or read these emails. 

Having looked at the Email Center Pro offering I am not sure that it would meet our requirements (I could be wrong?) even though it looks like an impressive product. Could you comment on this and whether another option would be to create a new email account for each project (projectXYZ@organisation.org etc) and then provide viewing access to various other users/accounts? Is this possible in Gmail? and would users be able to move email messages to the other account? Would it just be a matter of forwarding the message to that email account?

Finally I was wondering if you could advise of any tools that might be available to migrate some of our users existing MS Exchange emails to Gmail? We host our own email using MS SBS 2003 and most users would want to be able to migrate at least the last couple months worth of emails across to Gmail.

Many thanks!
James
World Education Australia</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi </p>
<p>Thanks for the fantastic insights into moving to the Google Apps platform. We are a Non Profit and were looking at moving to a hosted exchange solution but I am being more and more convinced that Google Apps is the way to go.</p>
<p>One of my main concerns was the ability to mimic Public Folder functionality with Gmail. We use public folders as a repository for emails relating to a specific project (more than one person tends to work on a single project and hence they act as shared inboxes for the specific project) &#8211; people move relevant mails to the public folder then anyone can search or read these emails. </p>
<p>Having looked at the Email Center Pro offering I am not sure that it would meet our requirements (I could be wrong?) even though it looks like an impressive product. Could you comment on this and whether another option would be to create a new email account for each project (projectXYZ@organisation.org etc) and then provide viewing access to various other users/accounts? Is this possible in Gmail? and would users be able to move email messages to the other account? Would it just be a matter of forwarding the message to that email account?</p>
<p>Finally I was wondering if you could advise of any tools that might be available to migrate some of our users existing MS Exchange emails to Gmail? We host our own email using MS SBS 2003 and most users would want to be able to migrate at least the last couple months worth of emails across to Gmail.</p>
<p>Many thanks!<br />
James<br />
World Education Australia</p>
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		<title>Comment on Audible &#8211; Either Your User Name or Password are Invalid by Genavieve</title>
		<link>http://blog.unofficialtechnology.com/2007/09/25/audible-either-your-user-name-or-password-are-invalid/#comment-738</link>
		<dc:creator>Genavieve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 01:28:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you! I&#039;ve been making myself NUTS this afternoon trying to figure out a work around for this bug. I am both relieved for your post and highly irritated that something this simple hasn&#039;t been fixed. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you! I&#8217;ve been making myself NUTS this afternoon trying to figure out a work around for this bug. I am both relieved for your post and highly irritated that something this simple hasn&#8217;t been fixed.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Put GMail on Your Desktop with GeekTool by Matt</title>
		<link>http://blog.unofficialtechnology.com/2009/08/23/put-gmail-on-your-desktop-with-geektool/#comment-735</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 04:22:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve used this script as a great template for what I wanted to do as well.

All I wanted was the number of emails in my inbox with nothing else. And I also found a way to let the script pull the username and password from keychain so you don&#039;t have to type your password/username into a shell script -- a rather serious security flaw.

I don&#039;t have a website, but if you want the full script let me know (mosius-at-gmail). The key lines for working with key chain are here. You&#039;d have to adjust for your own keychain, but it&#039;s fairly intuitive. I just used the keychain item for Google Notifier (what I used to use) because it was there. But it&#039;d be equally easy to just create your own keychain item in LOGIN and use that information too.

password=`security 2&gt;&amp;1 &gt;/dev/null find-generic-password -gl &quot;Google Service: Google Notifier&quot; &#124; grep -m 1 &quot;password&quot; &#124; sed -e &#039;s/password: &quot;//&#039; &#124; sed -e &#039;s/&quot;//&#039;`

username=`security find-generic-password -l &quot;Google Service: Google Notifier&quot; &#124; grep -m 1 &quot;acct&quot; &#124; sed -e &#039;s/    &quot;acct&quot;=&quot;//&#039; &#124; sed -e &#039;s/&quot;//&#039; &#124; sed -e &#039;s/@/%40/&#039;`

The 2&gt;&amp;1 deal in the first line has to do with the issue that when &quot;security&quot; outputs the password it does it to STDERR instead of STDOUT. Who knows why? Everything else around it is just parsing and stripping stuff out of the way so you just get what you need.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve used this script as a great template for what I wanted to do as well.</p>
<p>All I wanted was the number of emails in my inbox with nothing else. And I also found a way to let the script pull the username and password from keychain so you don&#8217;t have to type your password/username into a shell script &#8212; a rather serious security flaw.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t have a website, but if you want the full script let me know (mosius-at-gmail). The key lines for working with key chain are here. You&#8217;d have to adjust for your own keychain, but it&#8217;s fairly intuitive. I just used the keychain item for Google Notifier (what I used to use) because it was there. But it&#8217;d be equally easy to just create your own keychain item in LOGIN and use that information too.</p>
<p>password=`security 2&gt;&amp;1 &gt;/dev/null find-generic-password -gl &#8220;Google Service: Google Notifier&#8221; | grep -m 1 &#8220;password&#8221; | sed -e &#8217;s/password: &#8220;//&#8217; | sed -e &#8217;s/&#8221;//&#8217;`</p>
<p>username=`security find-generic-password -l &#8220;Google Service: Google Notifier&#8221; | grep -m 1 &#8220;acct&#8221; | sed -e &#8217;s/    &#8220;acct&#8221;=&#8221;//&#8217; | sed -e &#8217;s/&#8221;//&#8217; | sed -e &#8217;s/@/%40/&#8217;`</p>
<p>The 2&gt;&amp;1 deal in the first line has to do with the issue that when &#8220;security&#8221; outputs the password it does it to STDERR instead of STDOUT. Who knows why? Everything else around it is just parsing and stripping stuff out of the way so you just get what you need.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Audible &#8211; Either Your User Name or Password are Invalid by RT</title>
		<link>http://blog.unofficialtechnology.com/2007/09/25/audible-either-your-user-name-or-password-are-invalid/#comment-734</link>
		<dc:creator>RT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Sep 2009 10:26:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have received an audio book and it is in downloads.  However I cannot access it as the box comes up requesting Audio User Name and Password.  My computer is authorized.  Any suggestions as to how to fix this problem?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have received an audio book and it is in downloads.  However I cannot access it as the box comes up requesting Audio User Name and Password.  My computer is authorized.  Any suggestions as to how to fix this problem?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Put GMail on Your Desktop with GeekTool by judismith</title>
		<link>http://blog.unofficialtechnology.com/2009/08/23/put-gmail-on-your-desktop-with-geektool/#comment-733</link>
		<dc:creator>judismith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Sep 2009 03:03:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve moved the project to Google Code. You can find the update script with the author name attribute &lt;a href=&quot;http://code.google.com/p/gmailshellaccess/downloads/list&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve moved the project to Google Code. You can find the update script with the author name attribute <a href="http://code.google.com/p/gmailshellaccess/downloads/list" rel="nofollow">here</a>.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Put GMail on Your Desktop with GeekTool by Carsten</title>
		<link>http://blog.unofficialtechnology.com/2009/08/23/put-gmail-on-your-desktop-with-geektool/#comment-730</link>
		<dc:creator>Carsten</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2009 09:16:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The script works perfect – although all single and double quotes were messed up when I copied it. Might be a wordpress problem. 

Replace them with &#039; (shift+2) and &quot; (shift+#) and you should be fine.

I&#039;m just wondering how to pull the email authors off the atom feed?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The script works perfect – although all single and double quotes were messed up when I copied it. Might be a wordpress problem. </p>
<p>Replace them with &#8216; (shift+2) and &#8221; (shift+#) and you should be fine.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m just wondering how to pull the email authors off the atom feed?</p>
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